DIR EN GREY Setlist at Nosturi, Helsinki, Finland

I don't see the point in labelling TSUMI TO BATSU as "Uncensored new version of TSUMI TO KISEI," since KISEI was a rerecording of BATSU in the first place.

You can remove the "Uncensored new version of TSUMI TO KISEI," if you want. I just added that line to the other setlists of this tour so people wouldn't think that they performed the 1999 original version.

why do you just label Tsumi to Kisei and not Obscure and Rasetsukoku too? They're also Re-recordings. they wouldn't re-record these songs and then not play this new versions. And also: The New version is called Tsumi to Kisei; the old one Tsumi to Batsu; the titles consist of completely different kanji. And what does "uncensored" mean?

Not sure why it keeps getting removed when it's true (seriously leave it alone stop messing with it). Obscure new version been played since last tour, and I put new version of Rasetsukoku in the wacken set list. Not sure if that's been removed or not because someone seems to be edit happy.

Okay, this is a really weird and confusing situation we have with this one song, and I think it needs to be dealt with before the DSS touring cycle goes too far and we have like 50 entries of it to deal with rather than just 15.

Here's the situation from what I understand. On Diru's first full length album, GAUZE, there was a fairly fast-paced song called TSUMI TO BATSU. Fast forward 12 years later, and we have the DIFFERENT SENSE single, which contains the slower, sludgier B-side TSUMI TO KISEI. This B-side was widely considered a remake of TSUMI TO BATSU, has a few lyrics borrowed from it, and contains vaguely similar riffing in some parts, but otherwise, the two songs couldn't possibly be more different. If they'd just stopped there, there wouldn't have been any confusion whatsoever. A few weeks after DSS's release, however, they release a new version of TSUMI TO KISEI with some additional lyrics as a digital single over iTunes, which I assume were also borrowed from TSUMI TO BATSU... and what do they call it? TSUMI TO BATSU. So now we have two songs with the same title that sound almost completely different, the latter of which is a slightly altered version of a song with a different title.

What I think I'm going to do here is change all the entries of TSUMI TO BATSU from this year back into TSUMI TO KISEI, and then state in the @Info tag that it uses the lyrics from the TSUMI TO BATSU "remake"; it seems to be the least confusing approach to this scenario that I can take. If anyone has any objections, feel free to discuss it in the comments.

Due to overwhelming popular vote, I'm just going to change this song back to TSUMI TO BATSU for the time being, with an @Info tag. This issue is not, however, closed; when some way comes up to separate the stats of the two versions that everyone can agree on, I'll be following through with it.

Due to overwhelming popular vote, I'm just going to change this song back to TSUMI TO BATSU for the time being, with an @Info tag. This issue is not, however, closed; when some way comes up to separate the stats of the two versions that everyone can agree on, I'll be following through with it.