Kiss Setlist at Time Warner Cable Music Pavilion, Raleigh, NC, USA

Oh please end up being longer than 12 songs

@metaldude6661 yeah, i'm with u : ) the setlist is very incomplete till now .

I just read that the first night it took a while to take Mötley Crüe's set down and set up KISS' set which forced a shorter setlist and KISS wasn't able to go on till after 10 and venue had 11pm curfew

but what about the 2nd nite ?

Same thing maybe

i think it's time to think about that. maybe skip the first band "The Treatment" and Motley will go on early on the stage.

skipping The Treatment would be good but i saw Gene was praising them earlier so i dont think that will happen

yeah , that's not going to happen. what about The Treatment early on stage ? c.c

that would make sense have them going on shortly after gates

despite this i do have tickets to see Motley Crue and KISS on Aug 3 and i can't wait

Iron Maiden and Alice Cooper did it right. Even though Alice was the opening band and played only 45 min which is normal...they had a third band set up on a small stage out in the vending area playing an hour before the show started. That's what Kiss should do. Set them up on a small stage. Crüe and Kiss could add 10 min to their sets which would be 2 or three more songs. Then I could accept that.

That's a good idea

When I saw Iron Maiden and Alice Cooper in June, I started walking out at 11:45 (show in NY). The Tour should start at 6:30, not 7. Motley Crues crew has to get their shit together. Areosmith/KISS did it in 2003 averaging 16 songs each. I am seeing them September 22, they better get their shit together by then. I herd KISS has 2 more songs in their set CRAZY CRAZY NIGHTS and I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU.

I just saw Maiden in Indianapolis. The show started an hour late due to a severe thunderstorm. Both bands still played a full set. Kiss and Crüe always claim they give the fans more bang for their buck...just saying.

I believe this set is wrong. According to KISSfaq.com CRAZY CRAZY NIGHTS and I WAS MADE FOR LOVIN' YOU are still not in the set. via KISSfaq: No sparking boots for Genie... Curfew excuse for short show (again).

http://www.kissfaq.com/forum11/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=75134

Just received an Email Alert from Ticketmaster about the Tampa show. Time is changed from 7:30PM to 7PM! This could buy KISS and Motley 15 Additional minutes each? 3 or 4 songs??

Cincinnati has also been changed to 7:00

The NY show is still the same 7pm start. I believe the 3 shows (Bristow, VA beach and Raleigh) were a 7pm start time. Motley was suppose to go on at 8 in Bristow, but I think they go on 10 mins late or something. KISS went on at 10pm that night. Like I said above when I saw Maiden and Cooper last month in NY the crowd started filing out at 11:45. Who know when the "curfew" actually is. Oh lastly funny thing is I have a friend in CO that is seeing them 8/8, the start time according to LiveNation is 6:30. I don't know what is actually going on anymore. I still believe KISS is getting cheated.

i am not satisfied with this 12-13 song list its pretty bs. i drop;ed a good chunk of $$ here and they said 90 min sets from both bands. and the fact motley is not playing a single song from too fast for love pisses me off righteously =/
i hope things change up before my show aug 27

Gates for ny date open at 6 with venue site saying show starts at 6:45

My not ny

Where does it say 6:45? Jonesbeach.com and everywhere else I am looking say 7pm. I am pretty sure as time goes on things will change. We'll see what happens tomorrow in Atlanta.

My date is aug 3 Woodlands Texas

ooooooh my bad, I have a friend who's seeing them in Dallas the next day. Hopefully we'll learn more as THE TOUR goes on.

I just have a feeling that this is it. It is what it is. We'll see. I can remember back in '87 I saw Kiss on New Years Eve. They made a comment on a local radio show that they'd be rocking into the new year. The show was over at 11:30. So they do have a history of stretching reality. Oh well. I'm just glad that some of my family members will finally get to see them. I'm just a harsh critic.

I agree with Journeyman2112: we probably won't be seeing anything significantly different throughout the tour. (They've played the same twelve songs in exactly the same order for three shows running, after all.) I think I could forgive the abbreviated setlist if KISS just didn't play it so boringly safe in terms of song selection. Come on, guys: surprise us! How about a song or two from "Hotter Than Hell"? That's always been an overlooked album, and until fairly recently 'Goin' Blind' and 'Watching You' were staples of your set. Maybe dust off 'Shandi' every now and then? Or even 'I'! We're the fans and we actually listen to this stuff. It would be fun for us to hear at least a few songs that haven't been throttled to death, and I believe I can safely assume it would be more fun for you to play some fresher material.
I, too, distinctly remember reading that each band was going to play a 90-minute set. Unfortunately, the announcement that I read failed to mention an opening act. (Saw Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson in 2005 and they had a similar set-up: the opening act played for 45 minutes or so, followed by a 75-minute Nelson set and, finally, 75 minutes of Dylan.) Sometimes KISS does fail to deliver on its lavish promises, but I'm still looking forward to the show: especially 'Firehouse' and 'War Machine'. Nice to see those numbers back in the set.

JohnnyD...the only way we'll get to hear the lost classics is to pay $1,000 and book a room on the Kiss Kruise. Stanley has repeatedly said that "fans expect to hear certain songs so we can't drop them off the set". To me that caters to the fans that own the greatest hits albums. Not the hard core fans that have stuck it out through all the ups and downs and paid good money to own everything they've ever put out. Hell, they just put out an album called Sonic Boom. Where's some tracks off of that? But yea, I'll take what I can get. They'll probably do another tour once Monster comes out and hit some indoor arenas.

I am sure they will do a US tour again next summer/fall once Monster is out and will be back to playing 2+ hours

I was at the opening show at Jiffy Lube Live and was expecting a setlist like I saw when they toured here in 2010. I actually looked up the setlist from 2010 and they played a total of 21 songs!! This tour was 13, and as Journeyman2112 they played NOTHING off of Sonic Boom...was expecting MODERN DAY DELIAH...all in all the show was amazing as usual, I just wish the setlist was longer. The Motley Crue stage was INSANE...KISS was supposed to come on at 9:45 and they didnt come on till 10:05ish AND they didnt even play the usual "intro video" I guess its tough because this is a co-headliners tour, like metaldude6661 says, I am sure they will be back after Monster is out and play for 2+ hours like in 2010!

I don't understand the shorten setlists. I was expecting about 15-16 songs from each band. Crue not even doing "Smokin in the Boys Room". There is no need for the opening band, but that is Gene and I would not be surprised to find out if Gene does not have a tie to them. They may be part of his management team, label or he may be an executive producer on their album. Believe me Gene is making a buck from them somehow. He has always take out young unknow bands going back to Van Halen.

As far as the actual setlist there are certain songs that I agree will always be in the setlist as people expect to hear them. I can't disagree with that.