Problems with venues

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 26 Mar 2020, 22:43:45

The open/closed dates for this venue needs to be corrected. The Closed date should be 1994

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/scorgies-rochester-ny-usa-bd65d8e.html

Scorgies closed for good in 1994 (below is a link to a D&C Article to source the closure), I've found a show that took place there in 1994 (Dead Milkmen) that I can't add without the dates being open for the venue (and didn't want to create a duplicate venue entry either) …

Story support 1994 as the closing date for Scorgies https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/lifestyle/2013/12/27/whatever-happened-to-scorgies-/4223787/

newspapers.com link showing Dead Milkmen playing at Scorgies March 14, 1994
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/138294044/

Last edited 26 Mar 2020, 22:50:09

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 27 Mar 2020, 0:23:04

Scorgie's fixed. Thanks for the links to the D & C.

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 29 Mar 2020, 0:33:07

Please add closing date of July 2017 to this venue
https://www.setlist.fm/venue/aecc-ge-oil-and-gas-arena-aberdeen-scotland-23d40cb3.html

It changed its name to BHGE Arena which already has an opening date added
https://www.setlist.fm/venue/bhge-arena-aberdeen-scotland-5bd29f24.html

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 31 Mar 2020, 20:11:31

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/centre-paul-sauve-montreal-qc-canada-5bd71710.html

Keep on calling it Centre Paul-Sauvé, that’s the real name.

4000 rue Beaubien Est
Montréal Qc
Canada

wiki link
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aréna_Paul-Sauvé

opened on september 26 1960
demolished in 1992

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 14 Apr 2020, 5:14:58

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/club-369-fullerton-ca-usa-53d633b5.html

It says that the venue closed in 1997, though there are several setlists added through 1999. I am trying to add one for the Murder City Devils on March 12, 1999, and the source is from the band's record label.

https://web.archive.org/web/19990129000329/http://www.subpop.com/tours/

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 14 Apr 2020, 5:38:34

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/bernies-bagels-and-deli-columbus-oh-usa-23d3d0eb.html
https://www.setlist.fm/venue/bernies-distillery-columbus-oh-usa-1bd33980.html

These two are 100% the same venue. Bernie's was a hole-in-the wall bar that I went to many times in college. Many great times there (most didn't involve concerts). It was known as both Bernie's Bagels & Deli, Bernie's Distillery, and just plain Bernie's.

Bernie's closed on 12/31/15. The source I listed below mentions the address as 1896 N. High St, and lists the opening date as January 1975.

https://www.columbusalive.com/article/20160107/ ENTERTAINMENT/301079696

Thanks!

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 14 Apr 2020, 23:40:35

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Re: Problems with venues

Posted 15 Apr 2020, 4:35:44

Possible duplicate or just a show that never happened.

This is going to be long, bear with me. This setlist was initially created and listed as unknown venue.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ramones/1979/san-francisco-civic-auditorium-san-francisco-ca-3d7911f.html
Then in 2010 it was changed to San Francisco Civic Center Plaza.
I know that is correct because I was there. It was my very first rock concert. Civic Center Plaza is an outdoor plaza in front of city hall. There was a free, daytime concert at this location, which was broadcast on the radio, and recorded and appears on a live album.

Then, in 2014, someone incorrectly edited the venue to San Francisco Civic Auditorium. Civic Auditorium is an indoor venue, right across the street from the Civic Center Plaza.

Then in 2017, someone made a new setlist for the outdoor free show because the first one had the incorrect venue listed. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ramones/1979/civic-center-plaza-san-francisco-ca-1be75980.html

At first, when I saw the two setlists on the same day I just assumed the band had played a paid, indoor show that same night. (I only went to the daytime, outdoor show so I only am 100% certain about this one.) But now after tracking the edit history, this makes me wonder if there was actually a show at all at the Civic Auditorium. The show that I know for sure happened is the daytime free show at the plaza. That's the one which is documented on the live album, and I was there. The Civic Auditorium show may not have even happened but it is on here because of one incorrect edit in 2014.

Songkick incorrectly lists a Ramones show on this date as San Jose Civic. I know that never happened. It has “civic” in the name and this is how mistakes begin. Wikipedia just lists one show on this date as “San Francisco” , but no venue. So the way these things happen, is one incorrect edit can then get copied over to other crowdsourced websites and then the other websites will be used as “evidence” to back up the original mistake. My strong feeling is that there was no indoor show in San Francisco at all on this date. Unless someone was there or has a ticket stub or newspaper ad for the show, I think this Civic Auditorium show should be deleted. Or could the two be merged? since people have listed themselves as attending, maybe they added it to their shows before 2014 when the incorrect edit created the confusion.

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 15 Apr 2020, 23:20:23

Thank you for merging the two shows , I know for a fact this outdoor free show is correct. 41 years ago but my memories are so vivid since it was my first concert. :) If anyone has evidence of an indoor show that night ( evidence from 1979 like a ticket stub or newspaper listing, not something from a modern crowdsourced website that has dubious provenance) they can always add the indoor show back. But I very much think it never happened.

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 15 Apr 2020, 23:52:12

Fiddler's Green Amphitheater opened in 1988
https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=fiddlers+amphitheater+co&venue=43d66bbf

From 1995-2003 it should be called Coors Amphitheater
https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=coors+amphitheater+co&venue=3d62de3

and Comfort Dental Amphitheater should apply from February 2010 to January 31st 2013.
https://www.setlist.fm/search?query=comfort+dental&venue=4bd7b736
After which it is Fiddlers again.

Many shows are listed in the time frames as Fiddlers when they should be the other two names. Thanks!

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 16 Apr 2020, 13:23:34

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 20 Apr 2020, 20:47:41

Trying to get the incorrect venue named ‘Campground in Dale, Texas’ changed and linked to the proper source. These are setlists from performances at

Old Settler’s Music Festival Established 1987
Permanent location since April 2018
Venue Name- The Old Settler’s Music Festival Homestead 1616 FM531, Tilmon, Tx. 78616
Close to Dale, Tx. I noticed videos/setlists from our OSMF under several different venue names. The ‘Campground in Dale, Tx.’ Is one of them. I got an email from your benobrin moderator, but not sure how to reply. Sorry I’m low tech! I’ve worked for the OSMF eleven years now- I’m always trying to find random posts from our events. There will be many different festivals utilizing our venue, The Homestead, starting soon! Love your page and look forward to setting up my profile! Thanks for any help linking t

Re: Problems with venues

Posted 22 Apr 2020, 17:08:01

The latitude and longitude for Worthy Farm (Glastonbury) seems to be for the village of Pilton in Devon rather than Pilton in Somerset.

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/worthy-farm-pilton-england-7bd66208.html

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