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Yes I did. Only 2 of them had no link to the setlist so I couldn't change anything of those. But I can tell you: besides these, I am always following the guidelines ;)

Hey I see you are a moderator. A while back I had the roadie badge and then it suddenly disappeared. I wonder why it had been removed? The setlist.fm helpdesk said I had to find a moderator and ask them so here I am asking :)
Greetings, Mike.

Haven't seen any request in the 'Problems with Venue' forum around September last year to revert the AB Brussels.
A lot of work to revert the Ancienne Belgique back to Ancienne Belgique Club manually. At the moment I have done 334 edits, jeroendossche and tw21 have done some and some others too, there's still probably around 161 to be reverted (less the correct ones)
A bit of help would be appreciated.

Hey Biedjee,
Could you give me some information on some venue changes you made? For instance https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tamino/2017/ancienne-belgique-brussels-belgium-7be7eecc.html and https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/winterland-76/2016/ancienne-belgique-brussels-belgium-33fba875.html

These shows were played in a Ancienne Belgique Club. It isn't part of the main AB hall, but it is a smaller venue on the first floor of the same building. Shouldn't we differentiate between these two rooms?
Thanks,
Jeroen

Heb gevonden dat Chrissie Hynde haar concert begon met Don't Get Me Wrong tijdens het eerste Prom concert, weet wel niet of ze dat de andere avonden deed.
Hier is een link (je moet wel lid zijn van een Belgische bibliotheek)
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/chrissie-hynde/2000/sportpaleis-merksem-belgium-33f1b0a5.html
Coolio topvedette op Night of the Proms
Het Laatste Nieuws/De Nieuwe Gazet,
Ma. 30 Okt. 2000, Pagina 9

ANTWERPEN - Met Will Tura als verrassingsvedette, Chrissie Hynde als ster voor de pauze en UB 40 als afsluiter, kon er vrijdagavond op de première van Night of the Proms 2000 niets mislopen. Maar het was uiteindelijk toch Coolio die de show stal en op het middenveld het meeste enthousiasme losweekte.

Eddie VAES

Gewezen straatjongen Coolio zette het middenveld op zijn kop. Hits als CU When you get there en Gangsta's Paradise sloten perfect aan op de klassieke achtergrondklanken van het Proms-orkest «Il Novecento». Ook al moest het oudere publiek wel even wennen aan het 'verbaal geweld' van deze succesvolle hiphop-artiest, alles liep mooi ritmisch in de pas van de orkestkadans.
Voor Coolio was de Italiaanse tenor Alessandro Safina een beetje mat overgekomen met zijn Luna en Funiculli, Funiculla. Ook Howard Jones en zijn band klonken wat grijsjes, maar ze ontpopten zich tot stevige begeleiders voor de popnummers: What is Love? en Hide and Seek sloegen wel in. Chrissie Hynde ging aarzelend van start met Don't get me wrong, maar herpakte zich met I'll stand by you, afsluiter voor de pauze.

Top of the bill

Absoluut hoogtepunt van de avond vond plaats toen Chrissie Hynde samen met UB40 en het groot orkest de wereldhit

I Got You Babe brachten. UB40 werd destijds min of meer ontdekt door Chrissie Hynde, die op tournee met The Pretenders de groep ergens zag spelen. De acht van UB40 namen in het Sportpaleis met nummers als Red Red Wine, Light my Fire en Can't help falling in love geen enkel risico.

Orkest

Het veelzijdige Promsorkest Il Novecento en het schitterend swingende koor Fine Fleur - beide onder leiding van Robert Groslot - deden de zaal springen en dansen. Ook dit jaar moest de razende wals uit Masquerade van Katsjatoerian en de Ouverture uit de Lichte Cavalerie van Franz von Suppé twee keer per avond worden gespeeld. En de Engelse Proms-klassiekers als Land of Hope and Glory en Brittannia rules the waves werden uit volle borst meegezongen.
Eén ding is wel anders: het podium. Vroeger was dat aan de lange zijde van het Sportpaleis. Nu is het verhuisd naar de korte bocht tegenover de hoofdingang. Dat heeft voor- en nadelen. Het grootste deel van de zitplaatsen aan de twee grote zijden moet het hoofd naar links of rechts draaien. De tribune aan de overkant van het podium zit dan weer iets te ver weg. Wel creëert het een intiemer 'zaalgevoel' en heeft het middenplein een beter zicht op het podiumgebeuren.

Night of the Proms in het Antwerpse sportpaleis: nog op 31 oktober, op 2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11 en 30 november en op 1 en 2 december telkens om 20.30 uur. Op zondagen 5 en 12 november om 19 uur. Reserveren: 070/345. 345. Meer info: www.notp.com.

De hits van Coolio sloten perfect aan bij de klassieke klanken van 'Il Novecento'. Foto HendrixChrissie Hynde vond UB40 terug: 'I got you babe'. Foto Wim Hendrix

Waarschijnlijk heb je het niet verkeerd gedaan, maar omdat de oorspronkelijke uploader misschien niet de AB Club als venue gekozen had, werd deze verkeerdelijk geïntegreerd in de 'generieke' AB. Nu zou het duidelijker moeten zijn met alle aliassen.
En ja, zalen die regelmatig van naam veranderen omwille van 'The American Way of Life' aka sponsoring. Weet dat michi een lange-termijn project lopen heeft waarin concerten in éénzelfde zaal automatisch zouden toegewezen worden naar de juiste benaming.

Zag dat je ergens commentaar maakte op Ancienne Belgique (waar je overigens blijkbaar verkeerd was)
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/all-we-are/2015/ancienne-belgique-club-brussels-belgium-73cbfe35.html
Op onderstaande link heb je een overzicht over de drie verschillende zalen in dit gebouw (grote zaal + club + salon). De grote zaal kan inderdaad van grootte veranderen, naargelang de opkomst.
https://www.abconcerts.be/nl/praktisch/7/
Er staat ook een link naar een filmpje.
Paradiso en Paradiso Noord of Melkweg in Amsterdam is dan ook ingewikkeld voor mij :)

Hi Biedjee - just to add that MaccaEDU is now leaving offensive comments - "Extremely ignorant" is what he has written to chappers2306 and I expect a similar response to my latest reasoned argument for reverting the setlist in question. Even if you decide that MaccaEDU's edit is more appropriate they should be treating other users with more respect. Thanks, T

Hi Biedjee. Hope you might be able to help with something as a moderator. There's a minor spat going on around the setlists for Arcade Fire's recent shows in the UK (see, for example, https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/arcade-fire/2018/genting-arena-birmingham-england-63ecf653.html) - and by extension all the shows on their current tour. You may know that at the end of the shows the band play the song Wake Up at the end of their encore. They finish the song, pick up mobile acoustic instruments, then exit slowly through the crowd playing a New Orleans Mardi Gras street style improvisation that usually has the chorus of Wake Up at its core but varies a great deal from night to night, often including snippets of other songs such as Bowie's "Rebel Rebel" or Ben E. King's "Stand By Me", and sometimes dispensing with Wake Up altogether and just being Rebel Rebel or some other song. Several experienced setlist.fm users, myself included, have entered this as an additional song, listing it as Wake Up Chorus and then adding an @Info note that it is played from the floor as a slow exit through the crowd and including whatever the snippets of other songs are. Other users, on the whole who were not at the show in question, or worse still have limited or no experience on this site (e.g., MaccaEDU), keep deleting these entries and just note with @Info after the main entry of Wake Up that its chorus was played as a slow exit, perhaps noting the snippet(s) of other songs. Myself and other users feel this is inadequate and doesn't reflect what actually happens at the shows. The slow exit is usually around 5 minutes long and is a really special and integral part of the show so we feel it should be given full recognition. One way to resolve it might be to add it as an additional encore or even give it as a separate part of the set - I'm reminded of U2's Zoo TV tour which had an acoustic section in the middle that is separately noted on setlist.fm as a set on Stage B that falls midway through the full set. Perhaps these Infinite Tour Arcade Fire sets should have an added New Orleans Slow Exit Through the Crowd set added with the tracks played: e.g., Wake Up Chorus (or whatever it is decided it should be called - Wake Up Reprise even), or Rebel Rebel @Cover (David Bowie), etc. What do you think? If you don't think it's an issue then we'll just have to leave it be, but if you think chappers2306 and myself have a point then it would be really helpful to have a Superpowered Moderator step in and help solve the dispute! Thanks Trevor

Thank you

My edits are being reversed and I haven't made an edit in about a week, can you please do something about that?
I'm trying to add a Tony Bennet show I'll be attending tomorrow night

The source you mention for this gig is no longer available:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/damian-wilson/1992/unknown-venue-london-england-4bcb7baa.html
Trying to remember which performance it was that I saw...

Thanks for your swift justice @Biedjee! :)

Hi Biedjee,
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/antonio-vivaldi-73d63201.html?song=Summer
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/antonio-vivaldi-73d63201.html?song=Concerto+No.+2+in+G+minor,+Op.+8,+RV+315,+%22L%27estate%22
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/antonio-vivaldi-73d63201.html?song=Concerto+No.+2+in+G+minor,+Op.+8,+RV+315,+%22Summer%22+%28L%27estate%29
https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/antonio-vivaldi-73d63201.html?song=Four+Seasons:++Summer
All four songs are the same. According to setlist.fm's unwritten principle "Never use the original song title, always use some English translation", it has to get merged to "Summer" instead of the beautiful "L'Estate". I hope that moderators will find a more reasonable solution in their current discussion for multi language songs... I will wait for the result of the discussion before I put the Vivaldi songs in the song forum to be merged.

The reply is in the struggling with batch edits topic

Regarding Agua de Annique vs. Anneke van Giersbergen, I have no idea why I edited that. It was probably a forum request. Feel free to change it if it's incorrect.

Hi Biedjee,
Thanks for your info. Please remove the incorrect ones from the list of shows. Otherwise I could also report them in the "delete setlist"-forum

Hi Biedjee,
I created some proms concerts 2004, 2006 and 2007 based on this source: https://www.festivalinfo.nl/festival/4954/Night_of_the_Proms/2004/ . Now due to inconsistencies in 2007 I think that the source is not reliable on which dates there were really Rotterdam concerts. I will stop using this source, but it is the only one I found.
I will go on with 2008 and 2009 setlists, which won't be a problem, but there are some years 2010-2017, for which some Netherland concert dates seems to be missing. I couldn't find any thing about it on the net. So it will remain incomplete. I hope to finish 2008-2017 till end of the month.
One remarks: Il Novecento was renamed 2017 into "Antwerp Philharmonic Orchestra":
http://www.notp.com/nederland/?portfolio=il-novecento
http://notp-fanpage.de/proms/antwerp-philharmonic-orchestra/
Regards,
Markus

Hey.
I'm aware of that single release having quite a unique artist title, since I actually am a Elton fan. But I don't agree that we as mods have to go against common sense and follow every weird release name to the T's.
In this particular case I would have no objection if the song in question was for example an instrumental song, highlighting the talents of Elton's musicians - then it would make sense to call it an Elton John Band cover. But "Philadelphia Freedom" is just a regular Elton John hit, that has absolutely no striking difference from the ones that were released before or after it, nor it has any relation to any member of his touring band whatsoever. The reason why the single is named that way is unclear to me.

Hi Biedjee,
That's fine with me.

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