drummertqp's setlist.fm

Thanks for reporting the setlists where users are refusing to follow the guidlines.

Let's move the Swans 2023 setlist discussion to a dedicated Forum entry:
https://www.setlist.fm/forum/music/setlists-concerts-and-tours/swans-2023-tour-songs-medley-discussion-3d7794b#23d44c4b

Did Soft Cell play these snippets during Memorabilia? Vicki Sue Robinson’s Turn the Beat Around & Madonna’s Holiday, Into the Groove & Like a Virgin?

Hi. Here's what the guidelines say (first bullet point): "The artist name should be the name that was advertised for the show."

https://www.setlist.fm/guidelines#glArtists

So, I'm not sure who told you that, but that's not how it should be done. I think for the bands that have multiple names some people felt it was better to simplify things to just one name. For a while all of Neil Young's many bands for just listed as 'Neil Young'. That was eventually sorted out. My opinion is that if we are going to use the correct name of the venues on the date of a given concert, then why wouldn't we use the correct band name given on that date as well. It does get messy with bands that have 'quartet', 'quintet', etc. Escpecially when it can change from one concert to the next (and some advertisements don't bother listing the full name of the band). We should try to follow the guidelines as much as possible though.

just an FYI

Hell @ Masquerade didn't open until 2002
just found out

Heaven is the main big room upstairs.
This is where the major shows would have occurred.

The smaller shows are Purgatory and Hell would be downstairs.

It’s all a pain because they run multiple shows a night in the venue in the various rooms.

Hi
I’m trying to clean up these old setlists.
All of the setlists between 2011 and back are a hot mess!
Any help you can give would be great.
It’s hard to find info on some of these shows unless there is an attendee.

Hey. You seem to be familiar with Swans music, can you check this edit video and confirm if the edit is correct?
Thank you!
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/swans/2011/poppodium-013-tilburg-netherlands-6bd3a20e.html

If you are just reverting what that User changed, I think it's fair just to write 'no valid source given,' in all those cases where they just used a link to the guidelines as a 'source.'

If however you feel like you need to modify something that you entered earlier or another User entered earlier, please give a more detailed explanation. Links are always best when they exist, but it seems that the admin team recognizes you as someone who has listened to these recordings and is capable of analyzing them, so please at least mention that you got the information from recordings if you can't actually link them.

By the way, I reverted some of the old Kraftwerk setlists, and it seems that one of the mods has been doing it as well, so hopefully it won't be too much work for you.

Thanks for your explanation the other day. It made sense.

You have apparently noticed the mass reversion of medleys on the Kraftwerk setlists. Feel free to re-revert any that you think are invalid--obviously the User is operating under assumptions that they can't back up. If they cause any more problems, I will flag it to the mods.

Re: Tangerine Dream. I didn’t see any printed set lists on the stage but the sound & light team had them. He said he needed to keep it but he was nice about letting me take a picture.

That Regency show by Eyehategod looked good. I wish Brian Patton was on the whole tour. Mike messaged me and said that he was only doing a few dates with them so they could play the whole "Take As Need For Pain" LP....he won't be with them for the Lafayette show next weekend as they wrap up the USA tour...oh well...maybe one of the days...At least I saw and Joey LaCaze back in the day...opening for The Misfits...1997 tour

Just found the Regent Theater Eyehategod show on line. Posted it in the comments link. Looks like it was a REALLY good show. Glad to see Brian Patton back on board for however much longer! I am really looking forward to seeing them at the end of the month!

You've done some AMAZING work on those Fall setlists! Did you ever get to see them live? I only had one opportunity, the summer I went to England, at the Hacienda in Manchester during the summer of 1984. It's one of the shows that's out on DVD currently. It was an amazing show, and I got to meet Peter Hook and Pete Shelley in the downstairs bar (The Gay Traders) that night. Pete Shelley even bought me a drink while we talked. I was in Manchester fan heaven to say the least. I see you are going to see Eyehategod tonight. If you talk to them, tell Mike IX that his friend Tom in Louisiana is finally bringing those CDs to him at the Lafayette show at the end of the month!! Like you, I am hoping the website bugs get fixed soon...your work on the Fall, and the nearly 100 shows I've documented on Maid of Ace (including most of their undocumented USA shows) makes me worried that the info will get lost. Enjoy the show tonight!!

Thanks for answering my questions on the Dead&Co setlist. I just wanted the answers there if another user changes the info note to songs etc.

The other issue you'll run into is if T.D. is listed as the songwriter in ASCAP, and he wrote a song while a member of the band (and the band released it first) the cover credit goes to the band.
Lennon & McCartney wrote Yesterday while members of The Beatles. Lennon & McCartney have the songwriter credit in ASCAP, but the cover credit on this site goes to The Beatles.

Sounds like a lot of band drama. If there is ever movement on getting songwriting credit officially sourced, etc, post in the suggested forum (Cover assignments) for other Admins to weigh in and use that decision to make any edits f deemed correct.

An artist on musicbrainz doesn't nevessarily need a release. A biography link or even the picture if the announced gig may be ok.
There's certainly thousands of groups without any recording listening MB

Hello
I got a message on my profile page about your recent addition of a setlist to Maneaters.

bq. Hello Dirk..might you kindly assist this member "drummertqp" to remove/change his listing for the Maneaters for 2020 in Chicago? This is obviously a different band from the 1986 all girl blues band the Maneaters. They have been disbanded since 1987. I am good friends with the original bassist and subbed on drums. I also played the drums at their gig at CBGB's in 1986. Thank you Rev
I'm sending this message also to drummertqp
Revup67
I think it might be a good idea to contact himself. I don't think he will bite. Problem is that at the moment there's only one Maneaters on musicbrainz https://musicbrainz.org/artist/1e7fb2c9-ff6f-48c6-8d1b-a288d2376144 , this is surely the one you're talking about.
Discogs link https://www.discogs.com/artist/329429-Maneaters
So somebody should create this recent artist on musicbrainz with some valid links

For Zorn, until they start releasing albums under their name, I usually leave it as a Zorn "project." Bladerunner, Chaos Magick, Heaven & Earth Magick, and the Meditations on the Tarot bands (which all have distinct players for each release) all fall in this camp right now. Bladerunner is the only one I can think of now that hasn't ever released anything. I saw on FB that Laswell & Zorn were in the studio recently, but I didn't notice Lombardo in that post.

Moonchild used to fall in this (not with their own MBID), but then they finally showed up on their on on MBZ. Same for New Masada Quartet, Gnostic Trio, yadda yadda yadda. I wish I knew more about MBZ. It seems like every time I try to edit over there, I get a handslap by a MBZ mod, LOL. It's not intuitive all the time.

Def no worries. He might, but The Stone at the New School shows are usually one set, no opener. Dan's last residency there was Sept 2022 and it looks like he's got another residency coming up there Sept 27–30, 2023.

Happy editing. :)